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A Dialogue Between LGBT Community and Evangelicals, Catholics, Mormons

By Angelo Lopez
December 22, 2008

Recently there has been a lot of controversy over the pick of Rick Warren to do the invocation at Barack Obama's inaugural ceremonies. This selection has especially angered the LGBT community, since Rick Warren played a prominent role in garnering support for Proposition 8, the recent proposition that banned gay marriages. While the controversy is painful for those involved, it could also be an opportunity to start a dialogue between the LGBT community and the Evangelical, Mormon, and Catholic churches. Since Rick Warren was willing to invite Obama into his church to speak on issues like abortion to a fairly conservative Christian audience, perhaps he'd be as willing to have a forum within his church with gays and lesbians about issues between the two groups.

My wife and I voted against Proposition 8 and we both tried to get our friends to vote against it. We both have close friends who are gay and lesbian. But we both have Catholic, Evangelical, and Mormon friends. Lisa's close friend and former roommate is Evangelical. After Proposition 8 passed, there were stories of vandalism of Mormon and Catholic churches and attempts to boycott people known to have supported Proposition 8. For my gay and lesbian friends, they talked about the many bad experiences they've had with Christians. One of the things I'm realizing from listening to these two groups of friends is that the LGBT community and the Christian community do not understand each other very well, and they are becoming increasingly antagonistic towards each other.

I think a good start for a dialogue between the two communities would be for Rick Warren to just have a talk within his church community, between Evangelicals and their fellow gay and lesbian church members. I actually think this option is more feasible and has more of a chance of being a civil dialogue. Talk about prejudice that occurs within the church by the members of the church who experience it. Talk to the members of the church who are friends and family members of gays and lesbians. Hearing from strangers outside their church will not have the same impact as listening to people that they know, who they see go to church every Sunday. What have been the experiences of gay and lesbian Christians within the Evangelical community? Are the community generally supportive of them, or are they shunned? What do they feel about attempts of certain Evangelicals to make homosexuals heterosexual? What are the experiences of friends and family members of gays and lesbians within the church? Are church members supportive or do they ask them to cut off those ties?

Discuss the issues of the institution of marriage, its traditions within the Evangelical tradition, explain both points of view. Evangelicals have a chance to talk directly to gays and lesbians about their positions on sin and marriage, and this gives gays and lesbian Christians a chance to respond back. Even in the most polite discussions, there will be instances of anger, instances of deep hurt, instances of defending yourself, and instances of regrets. But a talk within churches would be a start. And from there, maybe then dialogue between the church and nonreligious LGBT members would be next and the Christians would be better prepared and more understanding of the other side. And gay Christians could act as mediators to nonreligious LGBT members who do not understand the Evangelical culture.

Since a lot of prejudice against gays and lesbians comes from religion, I think it's only logical to try to change religion. But I don't think you can change religion by vandalizing church property or targeting individuals who supported Proposition 8. I think the key is having Christians who are gay and Christians who support gay rights to speak up in their churches. They know how to speak to their fellow Evangelicals, Catholics, and Mormons, and they understand the church culture. An outside LGBT group may have an interesting 2 hour discussion and be gone, but their fellow gay church goers will be sitting in the same pews every Sunday.

Since Rick Warren is in the middle of this controversy, he might be the evangelical to start off a conversation. He has as controversial among other Evangelicals for not being conservative enough, so he may actually be receptive to such a dialogue. I have to admit this is only a guess, since I really don't know Rick Warren too well. Instead of widening the chasm between the two communities, maybe a dialogue would be helpful to reaching out. Most people may come out with their opinions unchanged, but at least the dialogues might help two very different groups better understand each other and plant the seeds for change.


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